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Blog Entry: 3/25/2006 4:54:47 PM

Now, we can connect to the MySQL database with ASPBanner using the following connection string if we like.

"driver={MySQL ODBC 3.51 Driver};server=localhost;port=3306;uid=root;pwd=temp;databas e=aspbanner;option=16386"

But we really do not want to connect to the aspbanner MySQL database using the "root" account

So, lets make an account to use..

In MySQL Administrator select "User Administration"

Down below you will see the user "root"

Right click on "root" and select "Add new user"



Type in a New MySQL Username and Password

I am going to call my new user "aspbanneruser"

Hit the Schema Privileges" tab



In this case since I am using the root account to manage my MySQL system I am just going to give this new user account what it needs to use the aspbanner database.. you may want to apply more permissions to the new account, that is up to you.. I am giving the new user (select, insert, update, delete, execute) So I right click on the aspbanner and then bring over the permissions I need for it.. and hit apply changes down in the bottom right.

We can now connect to the aspbanner MySQL database using this new account like so.

"driver={MySQL ODBC 3.51 Driver};server=localhost;port=3306;uid=aspbanneruser;pwd=tem p;databas e=aspbanner;option=16386"

 






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This post unfortutely needs to be here because this application has been the biggest pain in the neck for me you could possibly imagine. This is not because of problems with the application, but because of people's general lack of knowlegde regarding ASP.NET. This post totally voices my stance on what sort of knowledge you need to have and also the fact that I am not going to support anything but general installation on a correctly and professionaly set up live server.

ASPProtect.NET is a great application but using ASP.NET requires a lot more basic knowledge than using classic ASP and there are a lot of basic low level ASP.NET things that need to be set up correctly for an application like ASPProtect.NET to run. These are things I do not cover because you should know the ASP.NET basics when using an application as complex as this. It's just that I don't have time to nor should I have to teach people the basics of ASP.NET. I don't charge nearly enough for ASPProtect.NET to offer that kind of support.

So, I will say it one more time. ASPProtect.NET is targeted towards experienced Visual Studio.NET developers that know how to work with Code Behind VB.NET and are familiar with basic ASP concepts such as IIS application settings, the .NET framework, the
aspnet_client folder, and the basics of the web.config file.  If you are using ASP.NET for whatever reason you need to know about these things. The best way is to get some good books and do set up ASP.NET on a local development machine so you can start learning.

If you are one of the ASP.NET challenged let me say this as well.

Stick with Classic ASP. ASP.NET is a step in the wrong direction for the average user which I like to refer to as "Joe Coder". Classic ASP is very powerful and easy to pick up. ASP.NET is not easy to pick up and never will be for a lot of people. In my opinion itís actually the wrong technology to use for anyone other than big corporations who need extreme scalability in their applications or for the hobbyist or object oriented programmer who just wants to use the latest and greatest.  Ask yourself if you really want to deal with compiling Code Behind code each time you make changes to your web site as opposed to just editing some files in notepad real quick like you can do with classic ASP ? Do you have the money to purchase and use Visual Studio.NET or are you going to struggle with compiling all your ASP.NET pages using a command line compiler and a batch file ? Yes, you can build ASP.NET code that isn't code behind but why even bother if that is the case because your missing the point of ASP.NET if you do that and missing out on a lot of powerful new features and concepts.

When I do custom projects for bigger clients I usually end up using ASP.NET because they want to go that way and understand the time and money involved. When I do any of my own projects I use Classic ASP because the truth is you can still make some rockin busy scalable web sites with Classic ASP just like you can still make great web sites with CGI, PP, Cold Fusion.. etc etc. Look around the web because a lot of the biggest sites out there still use those scripting technologies and their stuff runs very well. ASP.NET is a lot of hype and although some things about it are plain awesome it is an environment best suited for real object oriented programmers, not the weekend code warriors.

The other thing to keep in mind about classic ASP is the shear abundance of applications and scripts available for it. ASP.NET can be expensive for that reason alone as there still is a shortage of good time tested applications out there and what is out there is always priced a lot higher.

In addition to that half of the ASP.NET applications out there are just half baked poorly converted versions of their Classic ASP counterparts. Is that the kind of thing you want to sink twice the money into or would you rather have something that runs well and has been tweaked year after year into a rock solid product?

To make things worse a lot of the hosting companies out there offering ASP.NET hosting are severely limiting the basic abilities of ASP.NET because of various security concerns. This means if you go with a Host that does that 75% of the asp.net stuff out there won't run on the hosted server. Isn't that wonderful ?

Now, Let's make things even worse. So far every time Microsoft has released a new version of ASP.NET a lot of things from the previous version have stopped working and needed to be modified to work correctly. Is that really something you will have the time, resources, and energy to deal with.

You may ask "but is classic ASP going to be around 5 years from now?" Though you never really know until the new version of windows server ships I say "Hell Yes" it will be. According to my sources at Port80 Software who work very closely with the folks at Microsoft (as well as many other sources out there) it will almost certainly be in Longhorn which is the next version of Windows Server. Longhorn probably won't come out until 2007 and will be popular for 3-4 years after that. The version of windows server after that will most likely support Classic ASP as well and if it doesn't I am sure there will be a way to make ASP run on it.  If you really look around a lot of hosting companies are still running Windows Server 2000 which is 5 years old at the moment. The bottom line is Classic ASP helped put Microsoft web technologies on the map. Microsoft can not simply drop it because if they do they give up a dominate market share to the scripting competition being PHP, CGI, Cold Fusion.. etc etc PHP for instance a huge installed base on many platforms which are essentially free. ASP.NET can not compete with that in any way and not supporting Classic ASP would put microsoft in a bad position.

Take it from me. If you are a weekend code warrior/script kiddie. You'll be a lot happier sticking with classic ASP. You will also have save a lot of money and you can still have great web sites. There are tons of great applications out there in ASP and ASP still is and always will be the easiest scripting language to work with and learn. Better yet look around on sites like www.4guysfromrolla.com and see if you actually understand any of the latest articles. If it looks like Greek to you that is yet another sign that you should stick to classic ASP.

Personally, I will be focusing just as much time and effort on ASP.NET as I will on Classic ASP in the years to come for a few reasons.
  1. Because I sell software I obviously need to convert/re-write most of my appIications to work with ASP.NET. My living may eventually depend on it.
     
  2. Because I love using the latest technologies I want to continue to develop using ASP.NET.
     
  3. Because I do many custom projects for various clients using ASP.NET is a must.
  4. Because in some cases using ASP.NET over classic ASP makes total sense.

Just don't fall for the HYPE folks. I am one of the few established developers out there that has a set of Balls and is willing to put the truth out there and see past the bullsh*t. If you go ASP.NET do it because you seriosuly think you need the power and scalabilty and money and time is not an issue or because you are a hobbiest and object oriented programmer who likes working with and has time to work with the latest and greatest web scripting technolgies out there. I truly believe that so far ASP.NET is as much a success as it is a failure. I am sure some of you out there know what I mean by that.

All this being said you should also realize that ASPProtect.NET is a little different than your average ASP.NET application because it uses a lot of advanced ASP.NET techniques and you essentially use it to password protect your existing scripts meaning you need to integrate your stuff with our stuff in a sense. If you just go buy some random ASP.NET application like a classifieds system or storefront it is probably just going to run on it's own an therefore will be a lot easier to set up and deal with.

Here are some links you folks should read as well.
http://rtfm.atrax.co.uk/infinitemonkeys/articles/asp/905.asp
http://www.itnewsgroups.net/group/microsoft.public.inetserve r.asp.general/topic2074.aspx
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=fh;%5Bln%5D;L ifeWin

Chris Willians
http://www.cjwsoft.com/about.asp

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Most likely it is no longer supported on the web server. The web host probably moved you site to a windows 2003 server which does not support cdonts or they stopped running the IIS SMTP server.

You usualy wont get an error..

it is also possible that cdonts is boned up as it is pretty flaky and that tends to happen. For example sometimes the emails it is suppost to send get caught up in the smtp pickup directory and never get sent out until the server is rebooted.

You should really ask the hosting company why cdonts has stopped working. It definetly has nothing to do with the code if it has been working all that time.  If CDONTS still is supportd tell them you emails are in limbo. Ask them to look and see if a bunch of ".eml" files are stuck in the stmp pickup directly and if so to please reboot the server.

lastly:
cdonts has been deprecated and now everyone uses cdosys.
see my article
http://www.powerasp.com/content/new/sending_email_cdosys.asp

, Then, you would have to add those users to the aspprotect user database. You would do so using the built in import/export features of msaccess and being very carteful about it. It is not a process we support and the technique used would be unique to any situation. Its basic database work though but still you have to be able to do it.

ASPProtect uses its own user database and you have to use that database. ASPPortect can not authenticate users using some other existing database.

Does that make sense ?,

I did a sign up.. your verify URL is not saved/set in the application variables.

try saving the admin settings page again.. or reboot the server so the settings get reloaded

if you can make sure the web is it's own application in IIS

if it is your server do and "iisreset" from the command prompt

if all else fails you got iis application issues with the site... wait till tommoro to see if the setting gets loaded

, Interesting.. Yes, the SMTP service is turned on.  This is my boogle.  If they are both installed, then it should in theory work.  But for some reason, it is being subborn and not working.,

Ok time for some more questions!!!

Is there a way to make the person's email address their default username... or force it in somehow instead of allowing them to create their own?

,
I agree -- don't use the code as is.  I provided it only as an idea for a work-around if your ASPProtect users with Internet Explorer complain about the Page Expired message.
 
I did not test it to be sure the parms coming into the target page (which would be part of the URL when bookmarking) are properly preserved.  It would be easy to make sure they are preserved, but I am not sure the code in the example does that.  I also customized the code with my own page header and footer. 
 
I have the Option Pack but the site does not need it yet so I haven't applied it.  I don't expect many problems re-applying my few lines of modifications.
 
The IE behavior is not a big deal if you provide an explicit login page, since users would have less interest in paging back to that.   In my case, I simply gave a link to a protected part of the site, and when they take that link, they instead get the login form if they aren't logged on.  Once they log on, they get their desired content page, to which they sometimes want to page back later on. 
 
From searching the Microsoft Knowledge Base and other sources, I could not find a way (using HTML) to turn off IE's behavior of refusing to quietly reload a page containing form data. Netscape does not do this.  So my IE workaround is to ensure my target page does not contain the login form.  It does not solve the cause of the problem, but in this case it gets rid of the Page Expired error message for my IE users.
 
I also purchased ASPProtect for another site, and I'm using that "out of the box" unmodified.  I'm very pleased with ASPProtect's functionality and the fact that it works completely without the need to customize.  However, I've found it is very easy to customize if I want to.
 
  Jim
  Puli Club of America
, it probably means the page you are trying to protect is (not in an iis application or not in the same iis application) which it needs to be

for a situation like using ASPProtect you really want your root of your virtual directory set up as one big application in IIS. (after you inquired about it your hosting company probably went and set the ASPProtect folder as an application in IIS which means any pages you protect need to be in there as well. (truth is they should have had your entire web starting from the root set as one in the 1st place..... its standard practice for any experienced hosting company) cwilliams38456.9306828704,

More Upgrade Info

To upgrade an existing ASPBanner system please follow these steps.

Back up your old system completely before starting.

Install the new system per the installation instructions that came with it.

Once it is running simply use your old ASPBanner database with the new system.

You may also want to keep your banner images folder from before in the same location so your existing banners still link to valid image urls because the new system stores banner images in a new location.

Since the config table in the database is no longer used you will need to go to the settings screen of aspbanner again and configure things. The config table in your old database can be deleted or left alone. It won't be used anymore so it does not matter either way.

That is all there is to it. If you have any issues please ask in the forums and we will help you out.

cwilliams38211.7525231481,

Chris -

I am encountering a problem with items showing up.  When I click on a category and then select an item to view I get

THIS ITEM IS NO LONGER ACTIVE
DO NOT CONTACT THIS USER AS THIS ITEM HAS BEEN TURNED OFF
OR THE USER HAS SOLD THE ITEM.

I have verified the item has the item_active check.  For giggles, I even unchecked with the same results.

Thoughts?

, With ASPVendor you must use the SQL scripts we provide with the SQL Version to create the SQL database or else fields will not get set correctly.

I wish you would have told me you were using SQL server. It's important details like that that allow me to help and troubleshoot. ,

Yes, thats cool.. post it here for sure.

Also, the way you allowed for your search engine is clever and probably was the easiest way to go.

You could do the same thing with the IP. Much easieri than the way I was thinking of doing it.

 

,

The only major usability issue I've found to date is multi-zone banners. Cloning is helpful to a point, but then if you have a change to that banner, you have to make the change 6 times or what have you. I think, even at the expense of speed, multi-zone capability for a single banner would be excellent addition. Of course, that supposes I haven't just missed it and it's already there.

cwilliams38453.6665509259, Can you be more specific on the javascript I should look for? Can it be combined with ASPBanner?,

I'm using the groups protect feature on my pages. None of them seem to close the session after clicking 'logoff'. I can tell because if I hit the back button and return to the group-protected page, hit 'refresh', the page refreshes, I'm not asked to log in again.

On the other hand, when I open a page that's protected by an access level and click 'logoff' (uses same logoff asp file to logoff), it seems to work fine - if I go back a page and refresh, it asks me to log in.

Just wondering - is anybody else having problems like this? Maybe I screwed something up in the few adjustments I made a while back. Any idea what it might be?

,

The ASP error on the home page has been solved -There was aproblem with the path that was including the home page file and we fixed it.

However the error on the member page remains - any ideas/suggestions would be appreciated. This is the error:

Microsoft OLE DB Provider for ODBC Drivers error '80004005'

[Microsoft][ODBC Microsoft Access Driver]General error Unable to open registry key 'Temporary (volatile) Jet DSN for

process 0x748 Thread 0xad8 DBC 0x214734c Jet'.

/aspboard/forum/global.asp, line 15

 

,

OK, I updated the server with the SP 8 Jet updates and this had no effect.

Then I loaded the asptest file and put in the correct path. The results were:

Failed: Database could not be connected to....

Error reported from server:
Error source: Microsoft OLE DB Provider for ODBC Drivers
Error number: -2147467259
Error description: [Microsoft][ODBC Microsoft Access Driver]General error Unable to open registry key 'Temporary (volatile) Jet DSN for process 0x784 Thread 0x854 DBC 0x2101014 Jet'.

, The PayPal feature that is in ASPClassifieds has always been labeled as experimental and has never been supported as the documentation says. About a year ago I stopped even mentioning the feature on the product pages or in the live demo because I didn't like how it worked and I decided I would just market the application as a free based classifieds. Itís just not something I can support or talk about. To work really well it really needs to be coded to use PayPal IPN and a credit system. Where ads and various extra features cost so many credits and people have to buy credits before they can post any ads.

Thatís about all I can tell you. It's just not something I support.

,

I have never heard of such a thing...
If the settings are enabled for the web it should work.
That is, as long as your include file syntax is valid.

I run my own windows 2003 server (you are on it now) so I should know

for troubleshooting

try a very very simple example... like a file in a folder.. with a server side include to a file under it

and see if that works

use real simple asp files with nothing crazy in them... and an include like this

<!--#include file = "../myfile.asp"-->

cwilliams38434.5388773148,

I log all 404 errors on my site and since installing ASPBanner, I get a lot of the following error:

/aspbanner/edit_banner.asp?Banner_ID=11&User_ID=1 contains a broken link:

/aspbanner/right1.gif

ID changes and there are various missing links.  Some missing links include:

/aspbanner/drop2.gif
/aspbanner/left1.gif
/aspbanner/right2.gif
etc.

While not critical, these are filling up my error logs and it takes time for me to sort through them.

,

I did everything mentioned here but it do not work ;(

,

and the permissions, how exactly were they set ?
I find a lot of customers think they are setting permissions correctly when they really are not. That's why I wrote that long article on the subject.

As you probably know a data connection is a very low level thing. It is the foundation of any ASP application that communicates with a database. Unfortunatly it sometimes takes a while to get the hang of setting them up without issue.

Everything must be perfect.. the ODBC drivers must be up to date, folder permission are critical, sometimes you must use a new version of the access database.. etc etc etc  The errors and things that happen when all these things are not perfect and not helpful as you have found out.

I would suggest you download and get ASPTest from CJWSoft running before you go any further. It is designed to be as simple as possible and helps get a hang of the database setup process.

,

I am having an issue with the Thumbnailing process. My host does not support ASPImage so I have to use something called asp thumbnailer which is similar to ASPImage. I am trying to modify the Dundas upload to automatically reduce the images to create thumbnails. I ripped out the asp image code and replaced with the bottom. The main issue I believe is grabbing the image files. I am not sure how to name the actual image file that is already uploaded by the dundas upload. the code is below:

The peices in red are where the issue is I believe. What you see below is my attempt to identify the exact image and then rename it tthumbnail. My optimal solution would be to take the picture, resize it and rename it exactly what it was named before.

 

Any ideas

 

Thanks

 

 

<% Else %>

<%
 Dim thumbObj
  
 Set thumbObj = Server.CreateObject("ASPThumbnailer2.Thumbnail")
  
 If thumbObj.LoadFromWeb("../pictures/" & Filename) Then
     thumbObj.ThumbMaxDimension = 140
     If thumbObj.CreateThumbnailToWeb("../pictures/Thumbnail.jpg") Then
         Response.Write("Thumbnail successfully created.") 
     Else
         Response.Write("There was an error creating the thumbnail.")
     End If
 Else
     Response.Write("<p><hr><b>Unable to load the original image.</b><hr>")
 End If

 
Set ConnClassified = Server.CreateObject("ADODB.Connection")
ConnClassified.Open ConnectionString
Set cmdTemp = Server.CreateObject("ADODB.Command")
Set CmdSetImageInfo = Server.CreateObject("ADODB.Recordset")
cmdTemp.CommandText = "UPDATE Ads SET Image" & PicNumber & "_Uploaded = 1, Image" & PicNumber & "_FileExtension = '" & FileExtension & "' WHERE (Ad_ID = " & Ad_ID & ")"
cmdTemp.CommandType = 1
Set cmdTemp.ActiveConnection = ConnClassified
CmdSetImageInfo.Open cmdTemp, , 1, 3
%>

,

Nope,

No changes to any scripts - just a response.write added to Email_Password.asp to print out the SQL.

Sure - here's the address.

www.omegaphibeta.net/aspprotect/users/Email_Password.asp

-Toni

P.S.  E-mail address to look for is serena_5@hotmail.com

, Hi Chris,

I've got a page with a form that includes an input field with 'type="file"' for uploading an image.  The page posts back to itself to save the info to the database and run the code necessary to upload and resize the image.

I need to limit this page to a group.   So like usual, at the top of the page I put:
<% GROUPACCESS = "1" %>
<!--#INCLUDE FILE="../check_user_inc.asp"-->

This gives me the error: "Cannot call BinaryRead after using Request.Form collection"

I have used ASPUpload and SA-FileUP before and know that this is caused by the components having their own .form collection.  This script is using "Pure ASP File Upload" from DMXZone for the upload which I'm not familiar with. 

So...my question is, do you know a way around the BinaryRead problem wtih ASPProtect? 

Thanks,
Michelle

P.S. PLEASE don't send me to DMXZone for help....they've got notoriously bad support!

,

Well I have the web hosting tech looking into the memory issues at this point.  Unfortunately I don't have another machine to be able to run the asp on that would run it correctly so that I can just publish it over.

, I sent you a PM,

Something very strange is happening.  Some users can't see the classified ads in their browser.  This is specific to the user's computer, and they can check other computers and see it fine.

In each case, the user is using windows explorer 6.0 browser with windows xp.

they can't see the ads listed on the ads page, but they can see the categories.

also, they can't see the place ad link on some pages.

Do you think that their browser is blocking the javascript for the mouseover message?

thanks.

,

When a new user adds themselves to the db thru the registration page, no user id is assigned in the User_id field.  I can't access the page on-line due to an user_id related error on the page.  I must use access itself and add the user id.  After that, everything works as expected.

What have I done?

, Actually it is my own server (retired email server from my employer). I will check out the documentation again. I DID read that part, but didn't understand it enough. I'll dig deeper. Also my box has 2 CPU's, hence the $125 for ASPImage..., I am sending you a PM with the new download url

see instructions above for what to do with it,

This is a great article for newbies..

Hints & Tips when working with ASP
http://www.powerasp.com/content/hintstips/common_sense.asp

cwilliams38436.5949768519,

I'm getting this error when I try to login:

 Active Server Pages error 'ASP 0131'

Disallowed Parent Path

/gallery/users/login.asp, line 19

The Include file '..dataconn_inc.asp' cannot contain '..' to indicate the parent directory.

,

enjoy the bar.. drink one for me.. cause that was the problem..

 

,

OK, I figured out the problem.  Not running ASP becasue the pages are not saved as ASP but rather HTM... OK so I am smart like a tractor but strong like an ox.

cwilliams38229.9128819444,

i will probably end up doing this myself, but dropping all the log data in a sql table would be nice as it offers much more flexibility on how an admin can keep track and use the data. Browsing through each log file is very inconvenient. I can search for text in the files (server-side, others with a shared server would probably have to separately download all log files first), but with the current method I don't have the following important options:

  • cannot sort by any criteria
  • quickly see a list of all login attempts by a specific user (i need to search each log file individually for this info)

if you had an option during setup perhaps (or elsewhere) in a future version that allowed an admin to specify the preferred logging method (separate files or a table in sql) i'm sure many admins would find it very useful to have a database alternative of keeping track of users becuase it would offer the two benefits listed above, plus more.

,

A mod like this would improve tracking by leaps and bounds.

Do you think this addon would be availalbe anytime in the near future? If/when this feature or mod becomes availalbe, it certainly would be ideal if some script was made to import all the log file data.

,

I just finished implementing the V7 product on our site and someone made mention that on the profile form where you are asked all your personal and user information there are 2 fields for passwords.  The first field uses masking to hide the password as you type it, where the second shows it in clear text.

Now we know that the only people able to see the password are the user and the administrator, but it is playing mind games with my users as they think there is a problem with the application.  I am not a programmer (however, learning ASP slowly now!) and am not sure if you did this on purpose or if it is a bug?

If it was done on purpose, can you advise how I can make the confirm password field masked as well to eliminate the unfounded questions!

Thanks

,

Yes, you are right.

We have now tested it using the DSN less connection with Access 2002 and it works fine. We have also tested it again with a DSN using 2002 and this also seems to work.

The comment about speed is a consideration although I have not noticed any differences. ( we only have a few database entries at this time).

Thanks for your help

,


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