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Blog Entry: 3/25/2006 1:39:15 PM

sorry, I am guilty of being very tired and didnt read your message fully.

I know this forum area is called "database connection issues" but it is only meant for generic issues.

Issues specific to a particular application need to go in that applications area in the forum. It keeps the forums more organized and helps other people fnd help later on.

So please post in the correct area.
I will answer this question soon. I have to do something 1st though.


I had both ASP Listings & Classified on the same website.  The categories seem to be getting mixed up. I removed ASP Classified but classfieds categories is still appearing in the student of ASP Listing.

How do I fix this?



Something very strange is happening.  Some users can't see the classified ads in their browser.  This is specific to the user's computer, and they can check other computers and see it fine.

In each case, the user is using windows explorer 6.0 browser with windows xp.

they can't see the ads listed on the ads page, but they can see the categories.

also, they can't see the place ad link on some pages.

Do you think that their browser is blocking the javascript for the mouseover message?



1st: try it with a normal dsn-less connection like we show in the example.. dont use that OLEDB.4.0 connection string.. connecting like that can cause a lot of problems and is not as great as everyone thinks it is and it can sometimes be difficult to get it working when the database has a password set on it

For the sake of troubleshooting just connect like so: (fixing the path of course)

ConnectionString = "DBQ=C:\Inetpub\wwwroot\aspprotect\data\database\ASPProtect_ access2002.mdb;Driver={Microsoft Access Driver (*.mdb)};UID=Admin;Password=temp"

ASPProtect will generate the actual connection string you should use when you run this page


Replacing the part in blue with your website info.

2nd: any IIS server setup to have the access database over the network path like that has a poor setup... and that can cause all sorts of problems as well, access is not designed to run over the network like that.. for more on that read this thread -  Start 5 posts down
http://support.cjwsoft.com/code/code_info.asp?TID=479&KW =OLEDB%2E4%2E0

3rd: If the app does not run using the connection string like I say to use then the problem is 100% on their end and is either related to permissions or the fact they are keeping the access database on a network path which is BAD BAD BAD... no quality host that knew what they are doing would set it up that way.. ultimately you don't want to host asp with a place that has a setup like that

4th: If you want to try some other stuff out we have a free guestbook, asptest, and a free version of aspbanner you can try out as well... www.cjwsoft.com

5th: If you need a quality asp host that knows what they are doing and offers great asp support www.alentus.com is the place

6th: Your right, it is not the code, its the data connection


I'll try to help when I get back tues night,, see the contact page for info on where I am .
http://www.cjwsoft.com/contact/default.asp?Subject=CJWSoft+G eneral+Inquiry


Thought this would be easy.  A few more pointers should get the database connection to work:


1) How do you decide whether it is a DSN (system datasource) or not? Does just putting the file in the ODBC make it so? 


2)We have other files in there for other server applications, does that mean weíre stuck using DSNís or is the file independent of that control dialog?


3) Assuming we get rid of using DSN for this database (or not), does the code go referenced in your article http://www.powerasp.com/content/hintstips/permissions.asp apply here or should it just work?


What else are we missing?



I have gone back to your original files and uploaded them to another server folder and instead of using a DSN I have tried this with a DSN less connection and changed the database to MS Access 2002.

This has corrected the problem.
I will check this out again using the DSN with access 2002 to see if this was the problem. It may be something to do with an older format of database on this particular server.

I will let you know what I find.

Thanks for your  quick reply.


yes. what you are talking about has to do with norton ad blocking software.. it blocks images or paths that have the word "ad" in them.. and you see red x's where images should be on web sites.. usually

it is different then what this thread initially mentions which has to do with a code/server issue with the application variables.


I guess i am not being clear as to what i am trying to do. As far as the event thing... lets hold off on that for now. It seems Chris has answered my question and i am on my own for that one...

As far as the log in goes: I went to that site you mentioned;www.CafePress.com to see if they had what i was talking about. and they do. Notice on the bottom of the page it says "sign in to your account"

I want that option on my home page where users can sign in to go to their account. It will either take them to a page where they can update their info, or it will take them to a protected page. Pretty much instead of posting a link on the site to say... click here to go to members.aspx and have it return an "access denied" the user can enter their info from the main page and be automatically re-directed to that members.aspx page.

I know how the viewstate works and i also know what that returnURL thing does..pretty self-explanitory.

Hopefully that makes things easier. I just want a user to log in from the homepage and be redirected to either a protected page or their account page...

(as does that cafepress website)

, If you PM your site info and I can go in and troubleshoot. I have no more ideas. Usually people have zero issues installating this application as I got it pretty tweaked so I need to see what is going on in order to help.,

My hosting company uses ASPEMAIL - and I am trying to setup the mailing settings on ASPPROTECT - but cant seem to get it to work.   I've tried many different options - here are two that are the closest - but have issues:

1. If I use the settings:

email component: aspemail

Mail remote server: my internal server name

*no smtp authentication

email mail notification - my email address on my internal server

***I get the following results:

       I can get get notified when a new user logs in, email a user from aspprotect user screen if they are in my company and have a valid email -- but I can not send to the outside world - I get an relay prohibited error.

2. If i try to change the setting to use the Hosting Website email server - I get the following results:  I dont get notified when a new user registers, I cant send to internal company people - but I can send to the outside world.

**any suggestions on what to do? I'm trying to work with the people who manage the mail servers - but since I dont know anything about them - its a bit difficult.



Is it possible to change the currency for accepting payments?  I will like to change from US to Canadian.

Thanks in advance

, ok,

Chris: You are right about a little extra coding to make it work. I am still learning .ASP coding, so I did a little web searching and used IF THEN statments to confirm a member logged in with a valid Access Code. If valid, the protected page executes, with the Member's Name and Access Level on a single line at the top of that page. Looks sharp! If not logged in, or a non member (who found the page via Google), I used a Redirect to send s/he to a login page with optional links as you suggested (http://www.vspa.com/aspprotect/vspa-password-failed.asp) . I couldn't get it to work when using Group Access, but I am sure that is just because I am a novice at .ASP (I will post that example when I figure it out). Meanwhile, here's the code I used that works:

<!--#INCLUDE FILE="dataconn_inc.asp"-->
<!--#INCLUDE FILE="check_user_inc.asp"-->
<!--#INCLUDE FILE="config_inc.asp"-->
<% =Session("First_Name") %>&nbsp;<% =Session("Last_Name") %>:
If Session("Access_Level") = "6"  Then
    Response.Write "VSPA Active Member Access Level 6"
 End If
If Session("Access_Level") = "7" Then
    Response.Write "VSPA Life Member Access Level 7"
 End If
If Session("Access_Level") = "8" Then
    Response.Write "VSPA Officer/Staff Access Level 8"
 End If
If Session("Access_Level") < "6" Then
    Response.Write "Access Level 1-6 NOT AUTHORIZED RESTRICTED AREA ACCESS"
End If
%><!-- http://www.vspa.com/aspprotect/vspa-password-enter.asp -->
<!-- *** End ASPProtect Code *** -->


, I have multiple zone banners displayed on a single page using the AspHTTP Component Method.

However, in IE 6.x and NS 7.x each banner has some text displayed before it similar to:

HTTP/1.1 200 OK Server: Microsoft-IIS/5.0 Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2004 07:15:12 GMT MicrosoftOfficeWebServer: 5.0_Pub Connection: Keep-Alive Content-Length: 229 Content-Type: text/html Set-Cookie: ASPSESSIONIDAASSDQBA=HAICCGCANEBEPANCDHLHJJGC; path=/ Cache-control: private

This text does not appear when using Netscape 4.x cwilliams38325.741099537, You cannot use server mappath in the connecting string of the application. If you want to know why read my article.

Make your connecting string just like in my example.. do not use the oledb connection string either as it will cause other problems.

If you need to find out the path to the mdb file you can use server.mappath to get that info but do not put server mappath in the connecting string. See my article again.

then if the database folder has proper permissions and the path to the mdb file is valid it will work... otherwise you get useless errors,  its really that simple.

You also may want to download ASPTest from www.cjwsoft.com it is designed to show a person how to setup a working data connection.,

check permissions for the user you are connecting to the SQL database.

That user may not have permission to make new data

Also,  check all field and table settings manually by comparing them to the SQL creation script we provide. You may very well be missing auto increment and primary keys which would make adding new data not work.

It is most likely one of those two things.

, It just sits there indefinitely without an error being returned. The only clue I have is that it seems to be connecting to the database when I try to log-in. I know this because I decided to erase the files and start again, but I could not delete the database because it was "in use". After I rebooted to clear that connection and erased the database, then re-did the install, the same condition exists after entering the key on the get_me_in.asp page. It just sits there indefinitely., Yes, that worked... ,

Well, I assumed I'd be able to tweak this thing but it is all so intertwined it doesn't pay to mess with any of the files. Hence, I'm going to have buy a different system only a week or two after buying the unlimited version here.

As I leave I want to give you some impressions here. While the system is low-cost, the 99 dollar version is missing a few pieces that I think would bring the value to 99. It is one thing to talk about the speed/performance, but to a degree that's hard to measure, and to anyone with web advertising on their site, performance will always run second to potential site income.

It definitely needs a user interface and registration for advertisers, and it definitely needs a single variables file for changing the hundreds of variables for which there is no control. I had to search on my own just to change the look and feel.

Lack of multi-zone support is a serious drawback. I would submit that anyone with a serious website needs it, and will gladly pay you 139 over 99 for just that one feature.

Take them or leave them, they are just suggestions.

, This is the error that I am getting when I try to add a banner...

[code]Microsoft OLE DB Provider for SQL Server error '80040e09'

EXECUTE permission denied on object 'sp_ASPBanner_GetZones', database
'aspbanner', owner 'dbo'.

/aspbanner/appinfo_inc.asp, line 67[/code]

also, when i go to the banners tab i see this in the banner list...

[code](3 Banners Found)

Microsoft OLE DB Provider for SQL Server error '80040e14'

Line 1: Incorrect syntax near '='.

/aspbanner/banners.asp, line 306[/code]

Help., Actually quite well.  I have this problem worked out and it actually isn't to bad.  But  now I am getting some strange error messages.  I will start another post.


I think you may be using old code where that was an issue... I am going to PM you the latest version..

to be safe upgrade all the ASP files except the dataconn_inc.asp files and your config_inc.asp files

"be real careful not to lose your current encryption keys in the "config_inc.asp" file or you will be in real trouble

You can use your existing database



Advertising ?? oh really.

It was named that because that way if you already have a login.aspx file for whatever reason it does not interfere which is a good thing. It has nothing to do with advertising.

Next off you never mentioned having an issue with it saying aspprotect in it. I am EXTREMELY clear about what I support and do not regarding ASPProtect.NET. If you are upset because I didn't tell you exactly what to edit and change in visual studio.net and hold your hand you are out of line. My god, I sent you to like the best and most detailed tutorial on how to setup and use the application with VS.NET that could ever exist. That took forever to put together. I even responded to your post on Christmas on a Sunday. I doubt too many companies would have responded on Christmas.

More importantly than that when you purchase code from CJWSoft you are purchasing digital source code and there are no refunds. Every single page in the CJWSoft family states that very cleary in the footer. I do not appretiate it when someone threatens a chargeback and as far as I am concerned anyone that does that is commiting a crime of theft. I also do not appretiate smart comments saying it's "obvious" etc etc

If you wanted to strike a nerve with me you did. If you want to commit a crime and be a thief that is your business as well. Obviously I can not stop that and the credit card company will take your side. I work very hard on the source code I sell and my policies on everything are VERY clear.

Advertising ??
Calling the credit card company ??
Obvious ??

nice, real nice


it might also be a good idea for you to try a simple text file writing example like this on your server and see if it hangs as well


for troubleshooting sake

this is sounding more and more like the filesystem object is blocked or disabled on your server



Thank you for the feedback.

I would like to point out the requirements of the application however as this is something I am aware of and do address.


These requirments are directly linked to from the ASPProtect v7 web page, so its not like I dont try to tell people the deal regarding SQL server.

Basically I only have the resources to provide scipts and instructions for using SQL Enterprise Manager and that is all I officially support. I also personally think anyone using a SQL Server should be using SQL Enterprise Manager because later on down the road there are things you may want to do such as backups/etc etc

Take Care,

Chris Williams

, I really need more information..

SQL or Access database ?
If Access are you using the newest version of the .mdb file

Is this a new item ?

Show me your connection string ?

perhaps the url to the site as well so I can look around?

things like that that will help me troubleshoot.

If any info is sensative send me a PM..



1. Two months ago, we have set up to use the Subscription services exclusively for all new members and renews. and removed the regular payment service, a carry-over from v6.
2. Many from the "pre-subscription" service have yet to expire, thus have a populated expiry field.
3. With a 10 month bridge before we get all the members onto the Subscription service the "Send email to users that are soon to expire."
is used to remind these.
3. When members RENEW using the subscription service, the Expiry Field is not Nulled and they become targets for future reminders although they have renewed as Subscribers.

XYZ signed up on Nov. 05 2004, we send him a reminder in Oct 2005 and he renews as a SUBSCRIBER. His expiry date field is not nulled and he will keep getting notices although he has paid for another year.

Hope this is clearer... Thanks

, Message :

I purchased the V8 of the software yesterday. It is running on a 2000 Server with a MSSQL database. It is installed and I get the successful connection to database screen but when I click to enter the admin. console I continually get:

"Connection string not saved in (data/config/aspbanner_unlimited_config.asp) file.
Most likey the data folder does not have proper permissions set on it.
That folder and all of the folders within it need (R,W,X,D) Permissions set for the anonymous webserver account.
These permissions can generally only be set by your hosting company."

I can save the string manually by hitting the button and I have checked that I have granted the proper access permissions. Any suggestions?


Chris -

I am encountering a problem with items showing up.  When I click on a category and then select an item to view I get


I have verified the item has the item_active check.  For giggles, I even unchecked with the same results.



Yes, thatís all I wanted to know. The problem is on my end. The server is not creating the .NET site correctly. I think I got it working now. Thanks.

In case you wanted to know? The only reason I asked you is because you mentioned that you where having trouble with overseas piracy and my account is new. I figured it was my user error by just though Iíd ask you first. Hope you have no more piracy issues and have a good rest of the day.

Thanks again for the quick response.


I'll try to help when I get back tues night,, see the contact page for info on where I am
http://www.cjwsoft.com/contact/default.asp?Subject=CJWSoft+G eneral+Inquiry


We can't seem to find the purchase emails for this install of ASPProtect.

It would have been in May 2004 for NetOptions LLC or CareerMatrix.com

We noticed it should have been v6 of ASPProtect.

Can you resend the download links?


It seems that if a user attempts to access a page that is not in their access level or they do not have the group permission they are redirected to the login page.  Re entering their ID generates an eror and they cannot go back to the pages they are alowed to access.  Is there a way for them to simply be blocked and return to the previous page or to a defined page so they can continue using the site?


, ok, that is what you are suppose to do... not having that path info set can cause all sorts of trouble., Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight.

Even though I have a big disclaimer that the account is totally worthless without someone paying to activate it, the new IDs keep coming, about 3 a day.

I have just purchased ASP v7 and loaded.  Followed instructions.  Obtained codes not prob.  Get to single field login screen, enter password and following page appears:

Method Not Allowed

The requested method POST is not allowed for the URL /temp/aspprotect/password_admin/get_me_in.asp.

Added folder aspprotect under (temp web) folder - temp, but also tried under root folder of web site.

Still no luck.

Apache/1.3.27 Server at www.didac.co.uk Port 80


no.., not unless you come up with some clever way to handle it on your own
http://support.cjwsoft.com/code/code_info.asp?TID=369&KW =https
read 2nd to last post

The way ASPProtect ships it is designed to either be in http:// the whole time or https:// the whole time.... (there curently is no solution from me allowing going from one to the other)



Thought that was already done....

Back to the drawing board...

, While I originally thought the login form on a non-protected page idea may be similar in setup to how our Classic ASP version of ASPProtect works I could not have been more incorrect. Truth is I forgot that it works a lot differently.

ASP.NET Web forms are meant to post to themselves and there is thing called the viewstate. (google it.. its a hidden variable the server creates in the form code that is required when the form posts back to itself.. and hold all sorts of information the server uses) Doing what you are asking about means disabling the viewstate and that can have big consequences and break certain things.

Basically you cant just put a form on a non-protected page and post to a protected page if the viewstate is enabled. Disabling it can break certain web controls like data grids .etc etc..  and can also have an effect on how the session is managed at the site and sometimes disabling it is not possible depending on what is going on cause you need it.

I am still doing research on the whole thing, but it looks to me like doing that is going to have a tradeoff of some sort.

That does not mean this isn't possible somehow. I am still researching and I am also going to see what John Evans thinks.

I told you .NET was complicated.

As for your other question that is something you have to sort out on your own by editing the code and recompiling it based on your custom project needs. It is not something I can help you with. ,

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