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Blog Entry: 3/25/2006 1:39:21 PM

Some users have reported an error during the registration process.
Here is what I believe is happening.

When you register you get sent a validation email that has a link in it that looks something like this.

http://support.cjwsoft.com/forum//activate.asp?ID=testAD3AD2 97BC

That link can only be clicked on once which will activate your account.

If you somehow run that link more than once you will get a message telling you there was an error.


I think some people are double clicking on the link they get sent and running it more than once.... or clicking on it again after registration is complete. It probably happens very fast so they never see the success screen.

Either way, if you can login to the forum nothing is wrong and you are already activated.

cwilliams38089.6248842593,

Yeah, its a win2k server.

Im up and running now (my guess is ASP wasnt installed, but he did not say), but am not having luck with any of the email.  I contacted my host to see what is available and have yet to hear back.  Do you generally recommend people to run CDOSYS?

Ive been reading through the docs, and the users and protection seems to be pretty straightforward.   Nice!

The only other real question I have (and cant find in the docs) is how to remove the self registration option all togehter.  My client wants to add its users manually, and not give the option for them to sign up themselves.  Do I just find any remove any code that references it?

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Not really sure how to do this.... i think you know what i am looking to do.. is there anyway you can show me or create that solution for me? It would prob. take you minutes as its been taking me hours

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It's MS Access, Version 7 (the Full one).

Anyway, I had inadvertently changed the user_id field type to "number".  When I changed it back to "autonumber", everything went back to normal.

 

Thanks you very much for your quick reply and sorry to have bothered you.

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ok,

when you say "we have set up to use the Subscription services exclusively for all new members "

I am sorry to have to ask this again but what does that mean exactly ?

how was that accomplished ?

The reason I say this is because when a subscription is created by a user through the normal channels.. meaning they went to the paypal subscription directory and either started a new account or found their old one to start a subscription with.. either way the PayPal Subscripber ID that paypal assigns is added to the database for that user and the expiration date is set to null.

Now, that being said the function that sends expiration emails to users will NEVER send an expiration to a user that has info in their PayPal Subscriber Field in the database. I just double checked that.

So that is where I am confused ? How did all these users get set up to use subscriptions and not have the PayPal Subscriber ID field popluated in the database ?

Seems to me the only way this could happen is if you set some stuff up manually and the PayPal Subscriber ID for each user never got put in the database. That and the expiration date didnt get set to null.

Again, I am sorry to keep asking this but it just seems to me that something else must be going on that I am not clear on regarding how you upgraded these people to use subscriptions.

In the end I think the answer may be to manually make sure each old user now using subscriptions has their PayPal Subscription ID set in the database as well as their expiration date from before set to null.

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Okay, this also shows at the bottom of the import/export page

I've got the IUSR account with modify permissions on this data folder as well.  Is the "this directory needs change permission" line just a general reminder?

Files are being stored in "D:\missourirealtor.org\members\aspprotect\data\export\\"

This directory needs change permissions for the anonymouse webserver account.
Those permissions can only be set by your hosting company.
These features will not work without those permissions being set.

 

 

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I had never noticed this before, but a customer sent me email to say that they had set up their aspclassifieds profile such  that they be contacted by email and not by phone.

However, in their ad, their phone number still appears. The lines in view_ad.asp that check for True values for the Contact_Via_Email and Contact_Via_Phone before displaying that information seem to always evaluate to True, regardless of their setting in the database.

I'm using an Access2000 DB for this. When I open the DB in access, I see the checkboxes correctly unchecked for phone and checked for email. However, if I do a quick test to display the retrieved values in the view_ad.asp (<%=contact_via_phone%> <%=contact_via_email%> they both display True.

What gives? I have had nightmares with Access and its weird handling of true/false 0/1 yes/no fields, but this is driving me nuts.

 

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if you use either of those options the mail server info you use must of course be valid (example: mail.somesite.com) your host can provide that info

you should also make sure your sending the emails using an account at your email server.. not some other email you have


other than that if it does not send emails it could be because your hosting company may require authentication for outgoing emails...

ask them ...

if that is the case the version of ASPBanner you have does not support sending email that way and you would need to add the necessary code to any places that send email... in order for emailing to work

, Just checked XML Parsing with your file. Got a clean bill of health on that: It's working.

Got the right code for the location of the ipn.asp in my paypal1.asp, from http:// all the way to .asp.

I think since everything is set up properly from the looks of things, I'll wait and see. If I get another one who flubs things, then I'll start the testing of the account. But if it goes through just fine, then maybe the Internet just hiccoughed on the first guy... thanks again!


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The only reason no one else asked this many questions is possibly because they didnt NEED the functions i am TRYING to do.

We offer tech support for installation of the base application purchased in it's native form.  In other words were not planning on spending weeks holding your hand and teaching you how to build your application or modify the one you bought. Not because anyone wants to make it hard on you but because there is a practically infinite number of things someone could be trying to do and the only way to give you the exact answer would pretty much involve either writing it for you or having a look at your code to see what the heck your doing. Sorry but my time isnít cheap nor do I have a lot to spare. I already gave you my approach on what to do and what you should be looking at but obviously youíre not catching on. SO ONCE AGAIN, PLEASE LOOK AT THE SOURCE CODE AND DECIDE HOW YOU WANT TO HANDLE YOUR END OF THINGS BASED ON HOW THE APP DOES ITS THING. I really donít know how I can be more clear that that. I donít have a crystal ball that can tell me where youíre going with your own code, what the final requirements are... what field you want to add or remove for the database etc. There is a demo up that everyone can look at and play with so they can get a feel for how the things behave and look. Itís not my fault your naivety led you to believe you could do anything with it in ten seconds. I mean if I just add some wings to my car maybe it will fly, and if you just add a shopping cart and a few products maybe you can start your own Amazon.com with that software right? Sounds good to meÖ

It would take me longer to re-write YOUR code than it would to have LEARNED ASP.NET and made MY OWN.

Well thats one thing we both agree on, I bet it would take you a long time to rewrite the code when you dont know how to write it in the first place. By you own admission you dont know enough about what your doing to be messing with a .NET app at this point. Maybe you should take your own advice and LEARN SOMETHING ABOUT IT. Whatís even worse is that application isnt even complicated, its 101 stuff honestly. One class, thats it! Your not looking at thousands and thousands of them that you will have to read and comprehend. If you can actually ďreadĒ the code we kept it lean and mean and to the point. Nothing strange or random, no references to a zillion things all sprinkled here and there. Its reads like a book if you know the language. Thatís why developers buy these apps all the time. Not because they couldnít write one themselves, but because they know their time is valuable as well and for $150 which is less than most get paid an hour they couldnít be bothered. Furthermore we both spend a lot of time making sure these apps are "dumbed down" so that the average programmer without a lot of object oriented background can pick up the coding style tweak it if they need to. Some people do modify things to suite their needs and others are happy with our apps "as is".

Just to recap we already wasted two days yappin about your jacked up servers and after you went through THREE of them and finally got one working you said the code was working. Red lights started flashing in my office by the time you got to the second screwed up machine, but hey weird things happen so at that point I wasnít 100% concerned. Technically we could have and possible should have cut you off there as the policy in place is pretty clear about us not being your tech support crew when it comes to getting your machine working properly (especially one we cant even look at). Go check those posts again both Chris and I were answering your questions and being as helpful as anyone could possibly expect.

Several more days have been spent answering questions about how to modify your application and again thatís not our responsibility and we donít support modified versions of the software for all the reasons that should be obvious. No software company does and if I have to explain why that is well this conversation is beyond hope.

Bottom line is the responsibility to support that application ends the moment you get it running the way it was shipped. Were pretty damn decent about going above and beyond and a lot of the time we go into things we shouldnít have to. If you have well thought out and specific questions by all means ask, this isnít some sort of thanks for your money now get lost operation. CJWSoft has been around since the beginning of Microsoftís entrance into the web application market. We have thousands and thousands of happy customers because we are developers and enjoy working with other developers along the way.

 

Youíre not the first N0oB to show up, but youíre the first one I can think of that ever tried to tell us we didnít write the apps we sell and essentially wanted to argue that we donít know what were talking about. Meanwhile you should have been done with your thing days and days and days ago, not in here yapping off and showing your ignorance to the other developers that regularly browse these forums. You trying to tell me how CafePress works is a joke, I happened to have been part of the team that worked on the first few revisions of that site and again you really didnít even understand what I was getting at in that last post. LINK TO LOGIN PAGE not link to every protected page on the site.

If you think I am pissed off at you, your wrong. I'm just irritated with the whining about this and that and rather than admit your over your head you come back with half baked remarks that only make sense to you. If you think you can google a few terms and come back here talking smack like youíre actually someone that knows what youíre talking about your just making a fool of yourself. You sound like a guy from China trying to tell me how to speak English... My advice is get a few books and start learning or try actually reading up and listening to the other bazillion knowledgeable developers out there that do a great job posting articles about the subject. You might just learn something and actually get your project finished before 2010 and when you do please come back and re-read your posts with "enlightened eyes" so you can see what a goofball you are for saying half of the things you have said. I am not in the mood to keep helping you get your project done step by step. I have huge projects of my own going on and if I thought you could actually provide a descent project specification I might offer to make the changes for you at a serious discount so you could go away and everyone would be happy. Problem is I dont get the feeling you could explain your way out of a paper bag let alone provide a group of programmer the techinal specs for your project.

Your best bet is to post a link to the start of this thread at www.AngryCoder.com I'm sure a  few of  people over there would be more than willing to give you a ton of usefull advice

Google 4GuysFromRollaÖ a great resource site with example, just dont come back here  telling me those guys/ladies posted things that dont work either.

Chris has written hundreds of articles on PowerASP, a great place to start looking as wellÖ www.powerasp.com I've been spitting out code for longer than I can remeber and I still look thing up on this site because its LOADED with great info. That happens to be one of the very first ASP sites that went up on the net so lets just say he knows a bit or two about the subject.

I'm sure your frusturated but your pushing your luck seriously. 38 posts about this subject in a week and your over there hacking away on your virus infested WaReZ machine which isnt exactally the ideal development rig. I mean we provide the code and your supposed to provide at the least a very basic knowlege of what your doing and a production grade platform to test it out on. To me thats like buying a car and then asking how to drive it... then bugging the dealer to teach you and when you smash the thing complaining because no one told you that your not supposed to drive into a wall. I have the same policy as the dealer, show me something wrong with the car from the factory and we will fix it for you NO QUESTIONS at all with our appoligies, but really once you take it off the lot what you do with it is your deal and its not our responsability in the least.


, sorry for the confusion.  I completely forgot about that flag setup, and how different it is between the two databases.,

Whein I went by the numbers off of your directions, which work well up to that point, the import would time out.

At that point I tried to import directly into access...and then it hung trying to login.

okay so I've put in a clean database and created a new record for me as admin.

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I wonder why the banners in ASPBanner 8.1 are moving from one place to another when opening my site www.helserevyen.no in a Mac Safari browser and click on refresh?

Can you take a look at my site and response?

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no, you cannot unless you plan to write a lot of custom code.

That is why the option pack has groups which eliminate the need to use access levels because groups can do everything access levels can and more.

There is an article here regarding that.
http://support.cjwsoft.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=32& PN=1

 

cwilliams38303.5555439815,

Connecting user is dbo of database.

User_ID is primary key with auto increment identity.

SQL Script of current table:
CREATE TABLE [dbo].[Security_Users] (
 [User_ID] [int] IDENTITY (1, 1) NOT NULL ,
 [First_Name] [nvarchar] (100) COLLATE SQL_Latin1_General_CP1_CI_AS NULL ,
 [Last_Name] [nvarchar] (100) COLLATE SQL_Latin1_General_CP1_CI_AS NULL ,
 [Company_Name] [nvarchar] (100) COLLATE SQL_Latin1_General_CP1_CI_AS NULL ,
 [Username] [nvarchar] (75) COLLATE SQL_Latin1_General_CP1_CI_AS NULL ,
 [Password] [nvarchar] (15) COLLATE SQL_Latin1_General_CP1_CI_AS NULL ,
 [Access_Level] [nvarchar] (30) COLLATE SQL_Latin1_General_CP1_CI_AS NULL ,
 [Notes] [nvarchar] (1000) COLLATE SQL_Latin1_General_CP1_CI_AS NULL ,
 [Admin] [bit] NOT NULL ,
 [Active] [bit] NOT NULL ,
 [Expiration_Date] [smalldatetime] NULL ,
 [Email] [nvarchar] (100) COLLATE SQL_Latin1_General_CP1_CI_AS NULL ,
 [Address] [nvarchar] (100) COLLATE SQL_Latin1_General_CP1_CI_AS NULL ,
 [City] [nvarchar] (100) COLLATE SQL_Latin1_General_CP1_CI_AS NULL ,
 [State_Province] [nvarchar] (100) COLLATE SQL_Latin1_General_CP1_CI_AS NULL ,
 [Zipcode_Postal_Code] [nvarchar] (20) COLLATE SQL_Latin1_General_CP1_CI_AS NULL ,
 [Phone] [nvarchar] (20) COLLATE SQL_Latin1_General_CP1_CI_AS NULL ,
 [Counter] [int] NULL ,
 [Last_Access] [smalldatetime] NULL ,
 [Login_Limit] [int] NULL ,
 [Custom1] [nvarchar] (255) COLLATE SQL_Latin1_General_CP1_CI_AS NULL ,
 [Custom2] [nvarchar] (255) COLLATE SQL_Latin1_General_CP1_CI_AS NULL ,
 [Custom3] [nvarchar] (255) COLLATE SQL_Latin1_General_CP1_CI_AS NULL ,
 [Custom4] [nvarchar] (255) COLLATE SQL_Latin1_General_CP1_CI_AS NULL ,
 [Custom5] [nvarchar] (255) COLLATE SQL_Latin1_General_CP1_CI_AS NULL ,
 [Custom6] [nvarchar] (255) COLLATE SQL_Latin1_General_CP1_CI_AS NULL ,
 [ValidateEmailCode] [nvarchar] (50) COLLATE SQL_Latin1_General_CP1_CI_AS NULL ,
 [Date_Created] [datetime] NULL ,
 [Validated] [bit] NOT NULL
) ON [PRIMARY]
GO

ALTER TABLE [dbo].[Security_Users] WITH NOCHECK ADD
 CONSTRAINT [PK_Security_Users] PRIMARY KEY  CLUSTERED
 (
  [User_ID]
 )  ON [PRIMARY]
GO

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No worries

then..

is there any way I can get rid of those information shown on User activity screen, so I can at least know who logged in current day?

thank you in advance

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Is it possible to set the user account time limits when they register? I am using email verification and am trying to have their accout expire 32 days after their initial login.

Also I have an issue with the email notification not notifying me when a new user logs in. It does a beautiful job notifying the new user.  I do not understand why my server will send to one and not the other, I ahve searched the links but none seem to answer this.

Thank you for your help and insight

, I think you can either change some things in your PayPal account settings regarding your default currency..

or add a hidden variable to the PayPal form code ASPProtect uses like this guy did.
http://support.cjwsoft.com/code/code_info.asp?TID=237&KW =paypal

The hidden form variable code would go next to all the other hidden variables in no particlar order.. just look through the paypal code in notepad till you find a bunch of those hidden form variables lines in a row. ,

I just added this line to the paypal1.asp page

<input type="hidden" name="currency_code" value="CAD">

and it worked.  Clearly other values can be entered for other currencies.  Everything was listed in this manual https://www.paypal.com/en_US/pdf/subscriptions.pdf.


Cheers
Roy


 
, Chris,

I'm setting up the subscription locally so I can't test it out until I put the site live.  I have a question in how the paypal subscription works.

1. What is telling paypal to return the info to the ipn.asp page for processing?  Is that something I have to set up in my paypal account?

2. I'd like to use Paypal's auto return.  I assume the return page would be  ipn.asp?  Would I just need to add a redirect  to the login page at the end of the appropriate txn_type if/then statement?

Thanks,
Michelle

P.S. I did finish the integration of the webwizforum with ASPProtect.  Thanks for the great headstart on that!  Will be putting everything live in a couple weeks.


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I am using VS 2005, when i go to new project in visual basic folder asp.net web application is not there..

Can i add it somehow?

, SQL server hotel ehh ? Humm that sounds bad whatever that is ?

Is that a real term or just something you named it cause they have like a zillion people using that SQL server?  I have never heard of that name ?,

Yes worked fine

thanks

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It appears there was a flag problem. When reading it into SQL Server, it converted the True/False in Access to 1/0 in SQL Server.

 

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IT worked just as cwilliams said. I did see the IP address being stored in the table but it didn't dawn on me that it was tied in to the view count, I tried it from a different IP address and it worked great .

Good coding Christopher

Thanks

John

, download the free version...

check out this tutorial...
http://support.cjwsoft.com/code/moreinfo169-1.htm

If your application can post to the page and provide all the form variables needed to log in it may work out for you..

You'll have to try it out... all the form variables needed are in that login form example.

Basically you'd be posting to a protected (.asp) page..
and providing the following for the most part.. how your app creates it post data is on your end...

<input type="hidden" name="Status" value="Checkem">
<input type="text" name="Username" value="Yourusername">
<input type="Password" name="Password" value="YourPassword">



As an alternate scenario...

Now, by default the "check_user_inc.asp" file is looking for posted form data... for security reasons it is not looking for querystring info..

If you change this bit of code in that file

from

Username = Replace(Request.Form("Username"),"'","''")
Password = Request.Form("Password")

to

Username = Replace(Request("Username"),"'","''")
Password = Request("Password")


It will then grab either form or querystring data...

Meaning you wouldn't necessary have to create a true post to the page with form data. You could just access the page via a querysting like so

http://www.mysite.com/somepage.asp?Status=Checkem&Userna me=Yourusername&Password=Yourpassword

Of course that introduces security risks as the username and password would be passed in plain text over the net


Another option is...
You can also make a copy of the "check_user_inc.asp" page called whatever with those modifications just to use in pages you need your little application to post to... thus reducing the security concerns a a bit as the rest of yoru site could still have its pages protected under the normal scenario.

I hope this answers your question... I havent really ever tried any of this but that is how I think it would work... ,

Please Note : Users with the option pack a new feature called groups that is much more powerful than access levels.


More On Access Levels

Again, Examples of managing Access Levels are provided in the "multiple_access_levels" folder included in the root of the Password System. Look at the source code of the ASP pages in that folder with a text editor to see the working code.

Access Levels and how they work can be re-coded to work in many different ways. However, you have to be a good ASP developer to make changes to it. Here is some information on how they work by default and also info on an alternate scenario we have provided.


In the "check_user_inc.asp" that comes in the root of this system Access Levels works as follows.

Level 1 has Access to - Level 1
Level 2 has Access to - Level 1,2
Level 3 has Access to - Level 1,2,3
Level 4 has Access to - Level 1,2,3,4
Level 5 has Access to - Level 1,2,3,4,5
Level 6 has Access to - Level 1,2,3,4,5,6
Level 7 has Access to - Level 1,2,3,4,5,6,7
Level 8 has Access to - Level 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8
ADMIN has Access to - Level 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,ADMIN

The "check_user_inc.asp" included in the "extras" directory is an example of changing the access level checking code
to work differently. In that "check_user_inc.asp" Access Levels works as follows.

Level 1 has Access to - Level 1
Level 2 has Access to - Level 2
Level 3 has Access to - Level 3
Level 4 has Access to - Level 4
Level 5 has Access to - Level 5
Level 6 has Access to - Level 6
Level 7 has Access to - Level 7
Level 8 has Access to - Level 8
ADMIN has Access to - Level 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,ADMIN

If you get creative you can create some interesting access level checking scenarios.


Here is some additional info..

If the access levels are too restrictive you can ignore them all together and create your own totally custom solutions.
Here is a quick rundown of some of the things you can do.

Ok... so if you want to be really specific about what each user can see and
can't .. here's an example of what you can do

Don't use the access levels before the include file..
Don't worry about what you set a user to in the admin area since the access levels won't be used.

Do something like this..

Every time a user logs in session variables are set that you can access at
any time.. thus allowing you to know who they are.

So you could do something like this...


<%@ LANGUAGE="VBSCRIPT" %>

<!--#INCLUDE FILE="check_user_inc.asp"-->

<%
If Session("USERNAME") = "bob1267" or Session("USERNAME") = "carl45" or Session("ADMIN") = "True" Then
Session("PASSWORDACCESS") = "Yes"
Else
Session("PASSWORDACCESS") = "No"
Response.Redirect(Request.ServerVariables("script_name"))
End If
%>


The following URL explains what Redirects are.
http://www.powerasp.com/content/code-snippets/redirects.asp

That would in effect create totally custom access levels.. but you would
have to do it manually for each user.

You can also do things like this after a person logs in

Show custom html to any specific user based on either their username or
access level ... like so

say there was a menu and a certain link should only show up to username
"paully67"

you could do something like this


<HTML>
<HEAD>
<TITLE></TITLE>
</HEAD>
<BODY>


<br>
<a href="main.asp">Home Page</a>

<%
If Session("USERNAME") = "paully67" Then
%>

<br>
<a href="paullys_page.asp">Pauls Stats Page</a>

<%
End If
%>

<br>
<a href="links.asp">Links Page</a>

</BODY>
</HTML>


Or you can show custom HTML or links based on Access Levels or any other info.

You can do just about anything with if-then statements and
using the built in vbscript functions..

Hopefully this info will help to give you some ideas...

Bottom line is you have to do some work within your site to make the Access Level system really come alive.

cwilliams38114.6506712963,

I guess i am not being clear as to what i am trying to do. As far as the event thing... lets hold off on that for now. It seems Chris has answered my question and i am on my own for that one...

As far as the log in goes: I went to that site you mentioned;www.CafePress.com to see if they had what i was talking about. and they do. Notice on the bottom of the page it says "sign in to your account"

I want that option on my home page where users can sign in to go to their account. It will either take them to a page where they can update their info, or it will take them to a protected page. Pretty much instead of posting a link on the site to say... click here to go to members.aspx and have it return an "access denied" the user can enter their info from the main page and be automatically re-directed to that members.aspx page.

I know how the viewstate works and i also know what that returnURL thing does..pretty self-explanitory.

Hopefully that makes things easier. I just want a user to log in from the homepage and be redirected to either a protected page or their account page...

(as does that cafepress website)

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This post unfortutely needs to be here because this application has been the biggest pain in the neck for me you could possibly imagine. This is not because of problems with the application, but because of people's general lack of knowlegde regarding ASP.NET. This post totally voices my stance on what sort of knowledge you need to have and also the fact that I am not going to support anything but general installation on a correctly and professionaly set up live server.

ASPProtect.NET is a great application but using ASP.NET requires a lot more basic knowledge than using classic ASP and there are a lot of basic low level ASP.NET things that need to be set up correctly for an application like ASPProtect.NET to run. These are things I do not cover because you should know the ASP.NET basics when using an application as complex as this. It's just that I don't have time to nor should I have to teach people the basics of ASP.NET. I don't charge nearly enough for ASPProtect.NET to offer that kind of support.

So, I will say it one more time. ASPProtect.NET is targeted towards experienced Visual Studio.NET developers that know how to work with Code Behind VB.NET and are familiar with basic ASP concepts such as IIS application settings, the .NET framework, the
aspnet_client folder, and the basics of the web.config file.  If you are using ASP.NET for whatever reason you need to know about these things. The best way is to get some good books and do set up ASP.NET on a local development machine so you can start learning.

If you are one of the ASP.NET challenged let me say this as well.

Stick with Classic ASP. ASP.NET is a step in the wrong direction for the average user which I like to refer to as "Joe Coder". Classic ASP is very powerful and easy to pick up. ASP.NET is not easy to pick up and never will be for a lot of people. In my opinion itís actually the wrong technology to use for anyone other than big corporations who need extreme scalability in their applications or for the hobbyist or object oriented programmer who just wants to use the latest and greatest.  Ask yourself if you really want to deal with compiling Code Behind code each time you make changes to your web site as opposed to just editing some files in notepad real quick like you can do with classic ASP ? Do you have the money to purchase and use Visual Studio.NET or are you going to struggle with compiling all your ASP.NET pages using a command line compiler and a batch file ? Yes, you can build ASP.NET code that isn't code behind but why even bother if that is the case because your missing the point of ASP.NET if you do that and missing out on a lot of powerful new features and concepts.

When I do custom projects for bigger clients I usually end up using ASP.NET because they want to go that way and understand the time and money involved. When I do any of my own projects I use Classic ASP because the truth is you can still make some rockin busy scalable web sites with Classic ASP just like you can still make great web sites with CGI, PP, Cold Fusion.. etc etc. Look around the web because a lot of the biggest sites out there still use those scripting technologies and their stuff runs very well. ASP.NET is a lot of hype and although some things about it are plain awesome it is an environment best suited for real object oriented programmers, not the weekend code warriors.

The other thing to keep in mind about classic ASP is the shear abundance of applications and scripts available for it. ASP.NET can be expensive for that reason alone as there still is a shortage of good time tested applications out there and what is out there is always priced a lot higher.

In addition to that half of the ASP.NET applications out there are just half baked poorly converted versions of their Classic ASP counterparts. Is that the kind of thing you want to sink twice the money into or would you rather have something that runs well and has been tweaked year after year into a rock solid product?

To make things worse a lot of the hosting companies out there offering ASP.NET hosting are severely limiting the basic abilities of ASP.NET because of various security concerns. This means if you go with a Host that does that 75% of the asp.net stuff out there won't run on the hosted server. Isn't that wonderful ?

Now, Let's make things even worse. So far every time Microsoft has released a new version of ASP.NET a lot of things from the previous version have stopped working and needed to be modified to work correctly. Is that really something you will have the time, resources, and energy to deal with.

You may ask "but is classic ASP going to be around 5 years from now?" Though you never really know until the new version of windows server ships I say "Hell Yes" it will be. According to my sources at Port80 Software who work very closely with the folks at Microsoft (as well as many other sources out there) it will almost certainly be in Longhorn which is the next version of Windows Server. Longhorn probably won't come out until 2007 and will be popular for 3-4 years after that. The version of windows server after that will most likely support Classic ASP as well and if it doesn't I am sure there will be a way to make ASP run on it.  If you really look around a lot of hosting companies are still running Windows Server 2000 which is 5 years old at the moment. The bottom line is Classic ASP helped put Microsoft web technologies on the map. Microsoft can not simply drop it because if they do they give up a dominate market share to the scripting competition being PHP, CGI, Cold Fusion.. etc etc PHP for instance a huge installed base on many platforms which are essentially free. ASP.NET can not compete with that in any way and not supporting Classic ASP would put microsoft in a bad position.

Take it from me. If you are a weekend code warrior/script kiddie. You'll be a lot happier sticking with classic ASP. You will also have save a lot of money and you can still have great web sites. There are tons of great applications out there in ASP and ASP still is and always will be the easiest scripting language to work with and learn. Better yet look around on sites like www.4guysfromrolla.com and see if you actually understand any of the latest articles. If it looks like Greek to you that is yet another sign that you should stick to classic ASP.

Personally, I will be focusing just as much time and effort on ASP.NET as I will on Classic ASP in the years to come for a few reasons.
  1. Because I sell software I obviously need to convert/re-write most of my appIications to work with ASP.NET. My living may eventually depend on it.
     
  2. Because I love using the latest technologies I want to continue to develop using ASP.NET.
     
  3. Because I do many custom projects for various clients using ASP.NET is a must.
  4. Because in some cases using ASP.NET over classic ASP makes total sense.

Just don't fall for the HYPE folks. I am one of the few established developers out there that has a set of Balls and is willing to put the truth out there and see past the bullsh*t. If you go ASP.NET do it because you seriosuly think you need the power and scalabilty and money and time is not an issue or because you are a hobbiest and object oriented programmer who likes working with and has time to work with the latest and greatest web scripting technolgies out there. I truly believe that so far ASP.NET is as much a success as it is a failure. I am sure some of you out there know what I mean by that.

All this being said you should also realize that ASPProtect.NET is a little different than your average ASP.NET application because it uses a lot of advanced ASP.NET techniques and you essentially use it to password protect your existing scripts meaning you need to integrate your stuff with our stuff in a sense. If you just go buy some random ASP.NET application like a classifieds system or storefront it is probably just going to run on it's own an therefore will be a lot easier to set up and deal with.

Here are some links you folks should read as well.
http://rtfm.atrax.co.uk/infinitemonkeys/articles/asp/905.asp
http://www.itnewsgroups.net/group/microsoft.public.inetserve r.asp.general/topic2074.aspx
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=fh;%5Bln%5D;L ifeWin

Chris Willians
http://www.cjwsoft.com/about.asp

,

I'm getting errors when clicking the Update Config Button in the System Info page and when clicking the log files button.

I'm not sure if it's a permission thing or not.  ASPNET and IUSR both have modify access to the _database folder and childs, yet I'm still getting the error:

Access to the path "D:\Inetpub\wwwroot\aspprotectnet\_database\xsd\aspprotectne t_config.xml" is denied.

Description: An unhandled exception occurred during the execution of the current web request. Please review the stack trace for more information about the error and where it originated in the code.

Exception Details: System.UnauthorizedAccessException: Access to the path "D:\Inetpub\wwwroot\_database\xsd\aspprotectnet_config.xml" is denied.

ASP.NET is not authorized to access the requested resource. Consider granting access rights to the resource to the ASP.NET request identity. ASP.NET has a base process identity (typically {MACHINE}\ASPNET on IIS 5 or Network Service on IIS 6) that is used if the application is not impersonating. If the application is impersonating via <identity impersonate="true"/>, the identity will be the anonymous user (typically IUSR_MACHINENAME) or the authenticated request user.

To grant ASP.NET write access to a file, right-click the file in Explorer, choose "Properties" and select the Security tab. Click "Add" to add the appropriate user or group. Highlight the ASP.NET account, and check the boxes for the desired access.

Any ideas?

Thanks

,

I made the changes like you suggested, but now the page just times out before even loading. 

<%
ConnectionString = "DBQ=D:\clients\rklarman\DrWeisbergUsers.mdb;Driver={Microso ft Access Driver (*.mdb)}"
DatabaseType = "MSACCESS"
%>

, Will do! ,

You edit the web.config file that came with ASPProtect.NET.

You find this tag

  <customErrors mode="RemoteOnly" />

you change it to this

  <customErrors mode="Off" />

If you have a different web.config file in your root I suggest you make sure the tag is set to off there as well for troubleshooting sake

If done correctly you will get a detailed error
It's basic low level ASP.NET stuff really and does not have anything specific to do with ASPProtect.NET.

You also need to make sure your web is set up correctly for ASP.NET and that the correct web.config's are firing..etc etc


cwilliams38454.4368055556, well, ultimately it comes down to this and this is stated in the footer of every page in the cjwsoft family of websites.

"In some cases in order to receive proper tech support your application will be need to be installed on a live professionaly setup server on the Internet. We simply cannot troubleshoot all issues when the application is only installed on your local machine."

and if you have some sort of weird timeout going on on your local machine and cant even give me a detailed error message there is just no way I can possibly troubleshoot it... I told you what to check and thats really all I can do... all my applications run on XP. As a matter of fact I do all my development on XP boxes.

It could be any numbers of things... odbc drivers, versions of vbscript... other software on the pc interfering such as antivirus script blockers like norton... all sorts of issues can pop up on personal machines running xp

If you put this up on a live professionally setup web server I can help you. On your local machine there is only so much I can suggest. ,
Chris-
 
That appears to have fixed it!!! Thanks alot for your patience, I will never question your brilliance (or customer service) again! Where do I write you a smashing review?
Thanks!
 
, do you want my help making the database with your import file ?,

This has not been officially released yet, but it is ready.
Here is the overview...
http://www.aspprotect.com/demo3/paypal_signup2/overview.asp

And the Code for the IPN Subscription Pack is 30.00.
http://www.aspprotect.com/ipn_subscription_support_pack.asp

A few people are using it and say it works very well.

Like the IPN Single Purchase System it is a separate directory you copy into the web site. One change must be made to your database so itís pretty easy to get working. 

Though I am not guaranteeing this you should be able to accept Single IPN payments and IPN Subscriptions at the same time without the two bothering each other. I havenít tested it but one customer is doing it and said it is working fine. It just involves manually specifying the IPN URL for one of the systems so it overrides the default IPN URL on your paypal settings. (As each system needs its own IPN URL) Its easy to doÖ just a form field you would add to the subscription form. I already looked it up. See below. 

Specifying Your Notification URL

If you only need to receive your IPNs at a single URL, you can enter that URL in the Preferences section of your Profile. If you would like to receive payment notifications for different payments at different URLs (i.e. if you need to separate payments made to different websites you run), you can manually pass the IPN URL with each payment by including it in that paymentís HTML code. Use the notify_url field to pass this information. The notify_url for a specific payment will be saved, and any subsequent updates to that payment (e.g. cleared eCheck) will be sent to that notify_url. When you pass a notify_url in your HTML code, it will override any preferences you set in your Profile. 

Anyway.. the Code for the IPN Subscription Pack is 30.00.
http://www.aspprotect.com/ipn_subscription_support_pack.asp

 

cwilliams38342.8775578704,

I'm in a bind cause I'm supposed to be launching on Monday!?  I have four different subscriptions set up in ASPProtect and I'm going to 2Checkout for payment.  When I go to 2checkout I have the same 4 subscriptions setup. 

How does ASPProtect know what product id to use in 2Checkout? 

I have the redirect setup etc. but it's using the default URL in 2checkout and not the product(Subscriptions).  The only way I can tell what the user selects is from the price... and I'm specifying the time period, the cost, group in the 2checkout1.asp but I'm not getting the user set for the periods either....  my main problem is the interface to 2checkout... I think if a product id is added somehow it might work.  What can I do?

thanks, -Jason

, Are you aware ASP can run on any machine running win95/95,2000,xp pro, 2003. You really should test all asp code locally before running it on live servers but anyway... that is your deal

I am not sure if memory alone will be enough for that server but it could help. I saw a decent amount of free memory when I looked. Its just about an 8-10 year old system on every aspect (processer,OS,Hard drives, memory etc etc) and not only that something is tasking the heck out of the resources left over for asp database access. Something is just wrong. I don't know what it is but I am pretty sure it is not aspprotect. I got rid of my last nt 4 server about 4-5 years ago but the application always ran great on NT and I still have some customers using NT 4. Not many though.

if you email me the import file and the encryption keys you are using I will make a database for you.. just zip it up and send it to chris-cjwsoft.com

replace - with @ ,

Does emailing work under the simplest scenario ? (directly from the users screen)

Thats the way to test it..

All that error means is whatever reason the settings you have chosen are not working. It could be the server. It could be what you chosen. (and yes I realize your pop info from outlook should probably work with the settings you chose)

Whenever I do installs I often have to try 3-5 different emailing scenarios before I come across one that works.

Each time making some changes and sending out test emails from the users screen until I get somewhere. Often time getting a working example of how your Hosting Company wants you to send email from ASP is the info to get your hands on. (what method and settings)

In this case they may have blocked the usee of a remote server and want you to use some other settings for sending email from asp. A lot of times they put that info in their help system.

If I were you I would start by trying the other two CDOSYS options for starters, and then try the remote server option again but using "localhost" as the server, if none of those work consult your host for example code and settings to send email from asp. If you still have no luck I can help for sure.

Realize too when testing the emails may take a bit to arrive. A delay of sorts. Best to type in a quick note about which method you are trying in the email text. That way when you finally get one delivered you'll know which method worked.

,


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